Die Gemeinschaft der Turkstaaten:
Tabelle der Türkischen Staaten mit Angabe der türkischen Sprachgruppe, zu der das jeweilige Hauptvolk gehört.
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Ein Korrespondenzpartner aus Zentralasien – aus Kasachstan und dort wieder dem Stamm der Tataren angehörend – teilte mir zu den „großtürkischen Träumen“ mit (Zitat):
“and to unification of Turk people: it is nice idea but not possible. Turk people is very different. Turks like Kazakh, Kyrgyz and Tyvan is more like Mongols in look and culture. Turks like Turkey is more like Meditteranean while Tatars is like European. If you divide it down there is 4 kind of turks: Chagatai turks : name after Jengiz Khan 2nd son (or 3rd?). They is Uzbeks and Uighur mostly and almost same thing.. the name Uighur and Uzbek is creation by Soviet and Chinese (well one Chinese warlord) definition because Uighur name die out around 1500, but is brought back in 1920. Chagatai turks live in oasis, look more like persian and some asian. They is NOT nomadic. I think race that is closest to original Uighurs is Yugur or Tyvan. Yugur is still buddhist like original Uighur and look more Mongol like Original uighur.
Kipchak turks: is Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Tatar, Bashkir, and Karakalpak. These kind turks is nomadic and consider Jengiz Khan as their hero (all these people use to be part of Jochi’s empire of Golden Horde before break up into smaller division). Kipchak turks and Chagatai turks HATE each other. You go to Xinjiang and u will see Kazakh of China do not like Uighurs of China and they will only unite when some one realy different threaten them. To westerner, Kipchak turks look like Mongol or chinese..but we is slightly different. Tatar and Bashkir can range from blonde hair to blue eye to yellow skin and black hair.
Oguz Turks: Is Turkmen, Azeri and Turkish. Azeri and Turkish are Caucasus people who adopt Turk culture and language. Language of theirs is pretty different, have many persian words. Turkish is maybe only 70% same to Kipchak dialect, and 80% to Chagatai. Turkmen people is original Oguz people, language of theirs is like 800 year old Turkish. Turkmen people give the best resistance to Russian colonialism. Azeri and Turkish people is so far from C.Asia they do not have much strong connection with them except language. then u have other Turks :.. there is Sakhalar (Yakut) of Siberia, they look very Korean have alot of Mongol terms in language of theirs. and Tyvan..they is seem to look exactly like Mongol, in dress too, language is Turk though.but they use names that sound like Mongol.
as u can see each group is different and hard to unite.
as for rival between Mongol and Turks..it is hard because it is hard to draw line between what Mongol is and Turk is with some. Even in Mongolia, there is maybe 4 or 5 official Mongol tribe that speak Turkish. You have Tyvan who is mongol too but speak Turkish. of course Turkey, Uighur and Uzbek is big difference from Mongolian..but Sakhalar, Kazakh, Kyrgyz etc is much more similar and hard to tell because they use many of same tradition like archery, horse riding, wrestling etc. Also when Jengiz Khan unite the tribes of Mongolia.. many of them was Turks too. ” Zitatende.
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Republik Kasachstan — (www.areion.org)
Die kasachische Nationalität — (http://crioracle.cri.com.cn)
Ostturkestan (chinesische Provinz Hsinkiang):
East Turkistan Information Center — (www.uygur.org)